return to jehovah... no return address .
today i read a small piece of poetic irony.
im not going to advertise from what web forum i read this, but it was so astounding i had to share it somewhere.
Also, was just thinking what's the real motive behind a "Return to Jehovah" brochure or campaign. . .
I wouldn't be surprised if after a one-time "outreach" to those who have left, they don't declare them all DFd or DAd saying, "We really tried to help them. We did the best we could."
return to jehovah... no return address .
today i read a small piece of poetic irony.
im not going to advertise from what web forum i read this, but it was so astounding i had to share it somewhere.
That is an interesting statement: "Wouldn't it be cool if we were allowed. . ." I've heard the same sentiment but worded differently throughout my lifetime.
You'd like to walk up to them and say "Do you know why you're not allowed to follow the pleadings of your own conscience? You're in a cult!"
http://jwtalk.net/forums/files/download/498-songs-140-142/.
i don't know if anybody has seen this (or if anybody cares).
but it seems that some of the "new" new songs have been leaked by somebody at bethel.. just a bit of a warning, do not click on that vocal rendition of song 142... it is awful.
Ok. Just listened to the vocal rendition of the "Pioneer Song."
Even if I were still mentally in, I would have thought "This sounds like that horrible christian music shit."
i knew it could happen one day...yet i was so careful..... sitting at the sound cabinet, i had our awesome forum open on my tablet, and didn't see the microphone brother looking over at me...... he wandered over and asked me "whats that site?".
i quickly responded "oh, i googled to get to our jw.org site, and this must have popped up" while quickly closing it.... he didn't look too fussed, but my heart was beating..... he is pretty chilled out and certainly not an "uber-dub"...but this was a wake up call to be more careful...i am fading fast, but don't want anymore attention from the nazi-elders while doing so!.
be careful all!
An great way to avoid getting caught on apostate sites at the meetings. . .. . is stop going to meetings! Works for me!
But in all seriousness, watch out for yourself!
jwvictims has done an excellent but disturbing article on how jw's feel about the child abuse problem.. http://jwvictims.org/2013/11/23/jehovahs-witnesses-caught-laughing-at-child-rape-accusers/.
Horrific recording, glad it's out there.
Nah, it's not a cult, right?
You know, at the beginning of all this (my "apostacy") it was my goal to remain "in" so I can help my family "out."
However, I have come to see that I have family members who would laugh and hoot just like these bozos. They yukked it up at Tony's zone visit and raved how he was a "straight shooter" and he "told it like it is."
I simply can't have respect for or help anyone who views such garbage as coming from god.
The more of this crap I hear, the more I feel the day coming where my wife and I say to family, If you want this shit, you can have it, we're outta here. . . . ..
http://jwtalk.net/forums/files/download/498-songs-140-142/.
i don't know if anybody has seen this (or if anybody cares).
but it seems that some of the "new" new songs have been leaked by somebody at bethel.. just a bit of a warning, do not click on that vocal rendition of song 142... it is awful.
"The Life of a Pioneer"
Really? This is a real song?
It appears they have become a parody of themselves.
judicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).
what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?
( for good ).
An open question to anyone who went the attorney/legal action route of making a JC "go away". . . . .
Did you just threaten legal action? Or did you actually have an attorney waiting in the wings? If so, an what kind of attorney (anti-defamation?) did you use?
the laws that the archbishop were criminally charged under, the laws of the state of new south wales, are the exact same laws that watchtower are under by reason that they are located in the state of new south wales.. .
adelaide catholic archbishop philip wilson has been charged with concealing child sexual abuse.. the charges relate to hunter region paedophile priest jim fletcher, who worked with the archbishop in nsw in the 1970s.. .
wilson announced in a statement he would take leave from his position after being notified of the charges filed against him by nsw police.. nsw police said its operation, strike force lantle, launched in 2010, investigated allegations of concealment of serious offences related to child abuse by clergy "formerly and currently attached to the maitland-newcastle diocese of the catholic church".. they alleged that wilson, 64, concealed a serious offence.. he is due to appear in the newcastle local court on april 30.. wilson is a former bishop of wollongong, where he was known as a "healing bishop" for his handling of child-abuse scandals.. wilson to 'vigorously defend innocence'.
Any Jehovahs Witness reading this would say, Oh, that's right! Sexual abuse is just rampant in the church and they try to hide it. . .
but change it from the Archbishop to Watchtower and they would say, This Peter Gogarty just has an axe to grind. He must have fell in with apostates. . .
and now for something completely nerdy,.... http://www.piday.org/.
lmao.
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reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?
i bet its very minimal.
naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.
I have friends in the city who have been involved with cart/table witnessing since the pilot "Manhattan" project. They have told me that they do "place" a lot of literature and that mostly religious crazies talk to them (trying to convert THEM!)
I asked them how many people had "come into the truth" or started attending meetings as a result of cart witnessing in the past three (or four now?) years of doing this work.
Answer: zero.
